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Topic: More grammar stuff...

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X-san
Sun 5/11/2008 9:07p
Okay, so I keep seeming to run into Japanese friends these days asking for grammar advice BUT, I suck at it lol.

Here's a recent question. A friend told me he has trouble with the words "to, with, for, about, and of".

For example, he wanted to know the difference between "I have a gift FOR you" and "I'll give a gift TO you".

I was like, umm... :p

He asked a bunch more questions. Like how different is "a book about poetry", "a book of poetry", "a book for poetry", "a book with poetry" etc...

I know how to USE all of it, but for me it's difficult to explain the why behind it.
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jdub
Sun 5/11/2008 10:01p
Oooh, I'll take the EASY one!

"a book about poetry"
Something for a student or scholar. Analysis, biography.

"a book of poetry"
A book that is full of poems

"a book for poetry"
I'm picturing blank, perhaps lined, pages. I'd write something like this:

The dolls from Small World have been changed;
They'll be joined by toon characters, it's explained.
Peter Pan and Alice--
--sure they consist Disney's chalice;
But the fans simply think it's deranged.


"a book with poetry"
Connotes there might also be prose, or photos...but not JUST poetry.


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X-san
Sun 5/11/2008 10:03p
Thanks, jdub.

Now for the hard question. Why? :p

That's what he kept asking me. Like what's the reasons behind those particular words indicating different types of things.

Tough, eh? lol.
4
jdub
Sun 5/11/2008 10:09p
One learns never to ask "why" in questions of math or grammar.

Not to MENTION the opposite sex.
5
DlandDug
Sun 5/11/2008 10:09p
We have all those different words to express different shades of meaning.

>>"I have a gift FOR you"<<
This is passive. I may or may not give it to you. You may have to get it yourself.

>>"I'll give a gift TO you"<<
Active. I will give you the gift.
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jdub
Sun 5/11/2008 10:24p
Heh... "passive" & "active"
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X-san
Sun 5/11/2008 11:05p
Good explanation Doug, thanks.
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