| # | Author | Message |
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| Kar2oonMan
Wed 5/14/2008 4:53p | Really? What is Obama's "real self"? Does that mean that people, like me, who support him are somehow deluded? |
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| SingleParkPassholder
Wed 5/14/2008 4:55p | "It is about race, service to Country, and actually BEING PRESENT to vote when you are supposed to be. The American people are too wise to Obama's real self."
I guess maybe I'm not that wise. What is Obama's real self? |
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| SingleParkPassholder
Wed 5/14/2008 4:57p | Didn't see Kar2oonMan's post. |
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| DVC_dad
Wed 5/14/2008 5:42p | tell me , Why do you support him? And spare all the "lesser of 2 evils" and the "its all about change" bunk.
Am I deluded because I don't support him? |
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| X-san
Wed 5/14/2008 5:51p | After what the republicans have done to tarnish the United States over the last 8 years? Absolutely.
Giving them (ANY of them) the white house for another 4 years tells everyone that what happened is okay, and can happen again.
The world community at large will consider that unforgivable, I think. |
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| DlandDug
Wed 5/14/2008 6:16p | >>Sorry, but I think when Republicans say they think Hillary is more qualified or what have you sound suspiciously similar to Brer Rabbit, begging not to be thrown into that old briar patch. I think truth be told, nothing, and I mean nothing, would make the GOP happier than running against the Clintons again.<<
I was speaking about me and my preferences, not strategies for winning. Yes, Hillary is catnip to GOP strategists. They've been running against her for years, if the mailers I have received are any indication. But, believe it or not, despite all the negatives, I still believe she is far more qualified to run this country than Obama.
>>The American people are too wise to Obama's real self.<<
That would be "some" American people are wise to Obama's "real self." Me, I still feel like there's a lot we don't know. But I am unwilling to go into lurid specualtion, and I certainly won't let the extremists at either end tell me what is "true" about the man. |
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| Lisann22
Wed 5/14/2008 7:32p | <<<<I dislike Obama for much the same reasons I disliked Jimmy Carter, a "feel good" candidate with very little experience. I am convinced that an Obama Presidency would have about as much impact.>>>>
I couldn't agree more Doug. I have shocked a lot of my family and friends because I haven't jumped on the Obama bandwagon. Without even getting into the policies and issues of Obama or Clinton my gut is just not buying him as President.
I just have a very uneasy feeling about him and his experience as a leader - not as a politician as a leader.
I will not vote for McCain, but it will be with great reservation that I'll cast my demo vote if it's Obama. |
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| SingleParkPassholder
Thu 5/15/2008 5:16a | "tell me , Why do you support him? And spare all the "lesser of 2 evils" and the "its all about change" bunk.
Am I deluded because I don't support him?"
Tell me, where I have stated I support the guy? I don't like any of the three choices.
But there's the thing. Don't ask anyone a question and then tell them what not to say when they answer. Bad form.
By the way, you never did answer the question. What's Obama's real self? |
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| Dabob2
Thu 5/15/2008 8:33a | <I think CA and NY are going to be a lot tougher this year than anyone wants to admit. >
CA maybe, but NY I don't think so. NY voted for Dukakis, for crying out loud (CA didn't).
In the last NY poll I saw pitting McCain against Obama head to head (and McCain against Clinton head to head), in both cases the Democrat won handily.
Obama's lack of experience is a bit troubling, but the record of presidents with little experience coming in vs. those with a lot of experience coming in is remarkably similar; in each case it's a very mixed bag. Some with little experience were great presidents, others were not. Same with those with lots of experience.
So I look to policy, and there obviously I like Obama far better than McCain. Obama also seems to me to be very cool under fire, which I think is an important trait for a president. He's obviously highly intelligent, and I think unlike Carter he is the sort of guy who will admit his shortcomings to himself and will appoint highly qualified people to staff the positions he has the least experience with himself. |
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| DVC_dad
Thu 5/15/2008 8:34a | Let me simplify my statement.
I do not know Obama therefore I don't know his "real self."
I think, based on the things I do know about him, that he is an "American Idol" cadidate and is not qualified to be president. He's an overnight phenom, without much more substance than "everyone's getting on board won't you join in?"
There you go, bad form and all. |
