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Topic: Gay Marriage Ban Overturned by CA Supreme Court

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Dabob2
Thu 5/22/2008 1:48p
I've been wondering that all my life.
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mele
Thu 5/22/2008 2:35p
I like this part:

"Remember, even if county clerks say they MUST follow the Supreme Court decision, that's not true and you should tell them so."

Sure! I'm sure you telling that is enough to go on. Don't give them any facts to back it up. Just assure them that it's not true. We all know our job requirements are just suggestions. Employers don't care if you actually fulfill them! More time to hang around the breakroom and gossip.
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Kar2oonMan
Thu 5/22/2008 3:06p
>>Sure! I'm sure you telling that is enough to go on.<<

Also known as "The Wesley Snipes Tax Free Plan."
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DouglasDubh
Fri 5/23/2008 5:26p
<I'm waiting for someone to say how allowing gays to marry actually hurts marriage, other than "that's the way it's always been done".>

It's been explained many times.

<I fail to see how allowing Joey and Larry to marry hurts my marriage one iota.>

It doesn't. What it hurts is marriage as an institution.
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X-san
Fri 5/23/2008 7:07p
***It's been explained many times.***

I haven't heard the explanation.

Why not repeat is for us?

***What it hurts is marriage as an institution.***

With a 50% divorce rate, the institution is hardly on good ground at this point anyway. Maybe allowing gays in would actually improve it.
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gadzuux
Fri 5/23/2008 7:16p
Something about sweden and out-of-wedlock birth rates. Douglas's whole anti-gay marriage diatribe is empty rhetoric based on discredited sources. Save yourself the trouble and watch a musical instead.
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jdub
Fri 5/23/2008 8:16p
>>It's been explained many times. <<

Thanks for expounding, puddin'.
178
ChurroMonster
Sat 5/24/2008 3:17a
So what strengthens marriage as an institution? I mean if it can be weakened then surely it can be strengthened. So how does that happen for those of you who beleive in such nebulous concepts?
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X-san
Sat 5/24/2008 5:52a
***So what strengthens marriage as an institution?***

I can't be sure, but I can only imagine forcing young people who are interested in sex into ridiculous lifelong commitments which they hardly even comprehend just so they can "get some" likely enters into it.

Just think how much stronger the institution of marriage would be, if all those sinful pre-marital kids would just wait til they got attached forever and ever and ever!

Just so long as they're not gay, of course. ;)
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DouglasDubh
Sat 5/24/2008 8:27p
<I haven't heard the explanation.>

I believe you have, and rejected it, but very well. Marriage was created by society because it's in societies best interests to encourage stable relationships between men and women, so that children are born and raised in a stable environment. This is necessary for the continuance of society. Gay marriage is not necessary for the continuance of society, since gay couples cannot produce children. Therefore, encouraging gay marriages leads to a devaluing of marriage as a step toward procreation - people stop seeing it as promoting a family, and start seeing it as only promoting a romantic couple.

The evidence is that places that have allowed gay marriage are seeing marriage rates falling at an increased rate since gay marriage was introduced. There's fewer marriages, more divorces, and fewer births, and more of them are out-of-wedlock. This is not good for society.
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