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Topic: Gay Marriage Ban Overturned by CA Supreme Court

#	Author	Message
281	DouglasDubh Mon 5/26/2008 11:55p	Sorry I haven't had a chance to get to Dabob's comments. But I've shown he was wrong before, and I'll show that he's still wrong. I should have some time tomorrow night.
282	Elderp Tue 5/27/2008 3:56a	"Were you trying to imply that no Mormon would say such a thing?" No, but I don't think it is right to put a vague blame on someone. As far as blacks goes I don't think God ever hated blacks. I will say I don't understand why blacks didn't have the priesthood. I can't debate with you there as I am still researching that one out. I will admit that on that issue I don't have an answer, I hope to understand it one day, but right now I don't.
283	Elderp Tue 5/27/2008 4:00a	"He also said he'd be for plural marriages if the church told him that was what he needed to do." I would too, don't want to have a plural wife, don't think it is going to happen, but other than the logistical reasons I don't see why that is any different than any other types of relationships out there.
284	Elderp Tue 5/27/2008 4:13a	I need to take back part of that last statement. I think plural marriages are really different than most traditional marriages. Like I said, the logistics behind such a marriage is crazy, I have no idea how you could keep that family intact. What I meant to say is I don't see how it is legally different than other types of relationships. If you can't tell I REALLY hope the church never brings it back.
285	SingleParkPassholder Tue 5/27/2008 5:11a	"No, I only accuse people of twisting my words or making personal attacks when they twist my words and make personal attacks. If you'd like me to stop the accusations, then stop the behavior." I quit taking you seriously a long time ago. You've long since become a parody of yourself, so have at it. We need the entertainment.
286	X-san Tue 5/27/2008 5:49a	***No, but I don't think it is right to put a vague blame on someone.*** You prefer direct blame, then. Look, I enjoy chatting with you and coming onto LP for interesting conversations, but I hope I've been around long enough for people to know I don't bother with telling lies to "advance my position" or anything ridiculous like that. The whole idea of it is a touch insulting. So if you shoot back a comment like "prove it or drop it", don't expect a nice reply from me. ***As far as blacks goes I don't think God ever hated blacks.*** I think that if you really believe there is a god, to insinuate even the POSSIBILITY that he/she actually HATES anyone (let alone an entire RACE) is pretty darned insulting to your deity. If I were god, I'd take offense at such suggestions. ***I will say I don't understand why blacks didn't have the priesthood.*** Nothing to "understand". The group was prejudiced, and then couldn't get away with it anymore so they "miraculously" changed. Interesting that it "miraculously" occurred in the 1970's, right around the time where garbage like that was no longer tolerated in American society. What a coincidence! I guess god was really paying attention to the civil rights movement and decided to change his tune as well. Will wonders never cease. ***I can't debate with you there as I am still researching that one out.*** There's nothing you could offer in a debate that would chance my opinion that racism is evil. ***I will admit that on that issue I don't have an answer, I hope to understand it one day, but right now I don't.*** Understand what? Why the Mormons were racists? What's to understand? There's no way on earth you can offer a reasonable retort to the facts at hand, something that would somehow "soften" the racism they exhibited. So why try. The were wrong. Accept it and move on. Anything else imho is an insult to god, if you really believe in one.
287	DouglasDubh Tue 5/27/2008 5:58a	<I quit taking you seriously a long time ago. You've long since become a parody of yourself, so have at it.> I feel the same about you, except most parodies are funny.
288	X-san Tue 5/27/2008 6:26a	You are nothing if not funny, Douglas. Although I must admit the few glimpses I've had of you actually attempting to have a conversation rather than throw around debating tactics have resulting in my hoping, every time I see your reply in a topic, that there might be a chance for some interesting comments there. When your reply is inevitably more along the boring and annoying lines of "Doug, Master Debtor", it's pretty disappointing...not as funny as it used to be (pathetic, really..since you've recently proven you can OCCASIONALLY be capable of real and thoughtful replies).
289	DouglasDubh Tue 5/27/2008 6:41a	It's hard to reply thoughtfully when there's nothing thoughtful to reply to.
290	X-san Tue 5/27/2008 7:05a	You ignored my question several times about why infertile couples should or should not be banned from the practice of marriage, and how how exactly they are different from homosexual couples in terms of ability to procreate. Why not start with that?

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