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| utahjosh
Wed 5/28/2008 10:01a | Hawaii was amazing, and my beautiful wife is fantastic. Thanks for asking.
About the "blaming God" thing. It's hard to know the mind of God. But in my church we believe in Prophets and such, who communicate with God and guide His church on this earth. Not just some nice, smart old guys. So when a revelation from God tells us to allow all men the priesthood, then we do it. |
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| X-san
Wed 5/28/2008 10:05a | ***So when a revelation from God tells us to allow all men the priesthood, then we do it.***
Twisting the facts and dismissing the racism is not okay, Josh. |
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| utahjosh
Wed 5/28/2008 10:06a | What facts did I twist?
I acknowledge the racism of the 1800s into the 1900. I don't like it, but it was there. |
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| X-san
Wed 5/28/2008 10:11a | The twisted, insulting idea is that god somehow revealed to you, in the 1970's, that being prejudiced was no longer okay.
That sort of implies that god was okay with it before then.
You can't see that?
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| mele
Wed 5/28/2008 10:14a | I don't understand why it's easier/better to attribute negative things to GOD (saying we just don't understand) than it is to maybe say that the prophets of the time were human and made mistakes. Hello? |
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| utahjosh
Wed 5/28/2008 10:15a | No, I do not see it that way.
I really DO NOT know all of the reasons the blacks could not hold the priesthood for a period of time. Racism was probably the start of it, the culture of the time.
I could give lots of guesses as to why God allowed that to continue until 1970s, but I do not know.
There were thousands upon thousands of LDS people before the revelation that wished all men could hold the priesthood.
I still believe it was a revelation from God that made the change, after years of petitions from His prophets and other people.
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| utahjosh
Wed 5/28/2008 10:20a | If you want some real insight to the history and attitudes today of Black people in the LDS church, visit this website:
http://www.ldsgenesisgroup.org/
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| X-san
Wed 5/28/2008 10:21a | ****I could give lots of guesses as to why God allowed that to continue until 1970s, but I do not know.****
Oh, for christ's sake...
Even as a FORMER Christian this is way over the top.
What sort of true GOD would "allow" prejudice?
That's totally stupid.
And you're, rather sickeningly, attempting to justify racism as "the will of god".
Totally crap, nothing more. Sorry to get angry, but it is pretty sickening!
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| utahjosh
Wed 5/28/2008 10:28a | We'll just have to disagree here.
But i still Believe that God knew of the policy that the church leaders had in place, and for some reason, unknown to me, he didn't make the change in the church until the 70s.
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| utahjosh
Wed 5/28/2008 10:29a | Or visit http://www.blacklds.org for more opinions from BLACK people on the subject. |
