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Topic: Gay Marriage Ban Overturned by CA Supreme Court

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431	Dabob2 Thu 6/5/2008 10:07a	< Is this a bad choice of words or is its intent clear.> I think it's probably based on a misunderstanding of what homosexuality is and is not. The biggest thing: it's not a choice. I do hear this "argument" sometimes: "well, if everybody was gay, the species would come to an end" or some variant. Well, relax. Everyone is never going to be gay. It doesn't work that way. 90% or so will always be straight. That's nature. That's more than enough to continue the species. A certain percentage will be gay (that's ALSO nature), and that's true for other species besides the human one. Then there's a related argument, which Doug seems to be hinting at: "Okay, so everybody's not going to be gay. But if homosexuality is accepted, more people will choose to be that way." Well, no. It doesn't work that way, as it's not a choice. The only choice is whether to be out. And yes, more people will be out (and happy, and forming their own relationships, and not putting up with all the agita and worse that being in the closet entails). But no more people will be gay.
432	DAR Thu 6/5/2008 10:15a	In all seriousness where does bisexuality fall into the equation?
433	Dabob2 Thu 6/5/2008 11:11a	A bisexual is someone who falls somewhere in the middle of the continuum. Most people believe that we're all on the continuum somewhere, even if most of us are bunched up towards one end or another. Thus the great number of straight people who have a gay encounter at some point in their lives, or vice versa. Kinsey constructed a 7-point scale, with 0 being totally straight, no gay encounters ever and no interest of even the idle sort, and 6 being the equivalent for gay. Many straight people are more like "Kinsey 1's" and many gay people are more like "Kinsey 5's." A full 50/50 bisexual would be a "Kinsey 3" which seems to be much rarer than the 0's and 1's or the 5's and 6's. At any rate, a bisexual has sexual attraction to both sexes and is capable of forming a lasting relationship with either. It doesn't mean they have sex with both simultaneously, as some believe.
434	DAR Thu 6/5/2008 11:20a	<<It doesn't mean they have sex with both simultaneously, as some believe. >> So that time in college with the two girls that was just......(yeah right)
435	mele Thu 6/5/2008 11:20a	<<In all seriousness where does bisexuality fall into the equation? >> Why does it have to be so defined? I know you're just asking but sometimes bisexuals are treated even worse than homosexuals, as if we're just confused or out of control, etc. We all have people we're attracted to, different physical types, personality types, etc. Bisexuals are no different. You're just attracted to who you are attracted to. Honestly, I like being attracted to both sexes. I am married so I don't act on any attraction. A commitment is a commitment, no matter what sex person it is with. That's the whole point, we all love the same, our relationships are every bit as real as any straight person and we deserve equal treatment, no matter which sex we decide to marry.
436	DAR Thu 6/5/2008 11:25a	<<Why does it have to be so defined? I know you're just asking but sometimes bisexuals are treated even worse than homosexuals, as if we're just confused or out of control, etc.>> I have nothing against bisexual women. ;p
437	Dabob2 Thu 6/5/2008 11:37a	<I have nothing against bisexual women. ;p> If you're like a lot of straight guys I know, that would be particularly true if they were wearing matching teddies, and having a pillow fight. Interrupted by the pizza man.
438	DAR Thu 6/5/2008 11:50a	Or the plumber.
439	SingleParkPassholder Thu 6/5/2008 12:38p	Anyway...... The same group of religious people and conservative activists who put the gay marriage ban on the ballot this November in California asked the State Supreme Court to stay its ruling allowing gay marriage until after the election. Remember, the vote on overturning the ban with the state Supremes was 4-3. The vote to reject the stay was 7-0. Moreover, Zogby polling is now starting to show that a majority of Californians are in favor of allowing gays to marry.
440	SingleParkPassholder Thu 6/5/2008 12:42p	Sorry, wasn't Zogby but a Field poll. http://www.reuters.com/article...20080528

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