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| utahjosh
Tue 6/24/2008 3:48p | <What if there's no mom and dad and a gay person is the only option?>
I don't think that has ever or will ever happen.
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562
| SingleParkPassholder
Tue 6/24/2008 3:52p | "<What if there's no mom and dad and a gay person is the only option?>
I don't think that has ever or will ever happen."
I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that you don't understand the question.
Would you rather a child stay homeless in foster care if being adopted by a gay person was the only other option?
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563
| utahjosh
Tue 6/24/2008 3:52p | <...quotes from Brigham Young to Bruce R. McConkie...They insisted that African-Americans would never hold the priesthood. McConkie, when confronted on it, was forced to admit he was wrong, a rare feat for a Mormon leader.>
Such statements were opinions of church leaders trying to explain why the policies were in place. None of those statements has ever been official church doctrine.
The eternal nature of Gender, the roles of Fathers and Mothers, are clear and concise doctrines of the church. |
564
| utahjosh
Tue 6/24/2008 3:57p | <Would you rather a child stay homeless in foster care if being adopted by a gay person was the only other option?>
It's really hard to answer this question, because I don't think the situation is real.
Would I send a child to the streets before sending them to a gay couple? No.
Would I keep a child in foster care, or in a foster family, before sending them to a gay couple? Probably.
ut my faith in the foster system isn't that strong, knowing foster parents aren't always the best parents. |
565
| ecdc
Tue 6/24/2008 3:58p | >>Such statements were opinions of church leaders trying to explain why the policies were in place. None of those statements has ever been official church doctrine.<<
Except they were. That's how they're being played off now, but there's really no way to distinguish between what is doctrine and what isn't.
>>The eternal nature of Gender, the roles of Fathers and Mothers, are clear and concise doctrines of the church.<<
Josh, tell me where the "eternal nature of gender" was first taught. You'll find that, like many Mormon doctrines, it's relatively new. Gender is eternal is a modern teaching that arose *after* homosexuality became a national debate. Again, so much for revelation actually revealing anything unique or new. These things always conveniently pop up in the face of new social movements. |
566
| SingleParkPassholder
Tue 6/24/2008 4:00p | "It's really hard to answer this question, because I don't think the situation is real."
It's very, extremely, incredibly real. I see it all the time.
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567
| utahjosh
Tue 6/24/2008 4:04p | They were NOT doctrine. They were opinions.
Many followed and believed those opinions, because that specific thing had not been revealed directly through the Prophet. It was the "best guess" theory that became popular through time and culture. |
568
| ecdc
Tue 6/24/2008 4:08p | >>It's really hard to answer this question, because I don't think the situation is real.<<
Of course, this is a key component for religious people who feel like it's their business to tell other people how to live and what they can and can't do. They first have to be able to demonize or somehow explain why they know better than the person actually experiencing it. Therefore, gay people have gone from perverted deviants to somewhat tragic characters who have a "lifelong struggle" they need to overcome. It's astounding how some people who have not experienced something themselves will tell other people what's going on with them.
Rather than simply listening to gay people and taking their word and experience for it, they create nonsense explanations. Then, they deny reality when it conflicts with their worldview. |
569
| mele
Tue 6/24/2008 4:13p | <<The boy is thrilled beyond words to be where he is now. He calls the guy "Dad", gave him 13 different cards for Father's Day because he wanted to make up for all the Father's Days he had no one to buy for>>
Thank you for sharing that, SPP. What a wonderful (although heartwrenching) story. He sounds like a wonderful kid. |
570
| mele
Tue 6/24/2008 4:13p | I like the word 'wonderful'. |
