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Topic: McCain's Bush Problem

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1	ecdc Sun 5/18/2008 9:17a	http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05...f=slogin Frank Rich has an interesting take on why the typically "safe" Republican Congressional seat in Mississippi went to a Democrat, the third to do so this year. Here's an excerpt, click the link for more: >>The biggest gift President Bush has given his party this year was to keep his daughter's wedding nearly as private as Connie Corleone's. Now that his disapproval rating has reached the Nixon nadir of negativity, even a joyous familial ritual isn't enough to make the country glad to see him. The G.O.P.'s best hope would be for both the president and Dick Cheney to lock themselves in a closet until the morning after Election Day. Republicans finally recognized the gravity of their situation three days after Jenna Bush took her vows in Crawford. As Hillary Clinton romped in West Virginia, voters in Mississippi elected a Democrat in a Congressional district that went for Bush-Cheney by 25 percentage points just four years ago. It's the third "safe" Republican House seat to fall in a special election since March. Party leaders have been haplessly trying to identify possible remedies ever since. It didn't help that their recent stab at an Obamaesque national Congressional campaign slogan, "The Change You Deserve," was humiliatingly identified as the advertising pitch for the anti-depressant Effexor. (If they're going to go the pharmaceutical route, "Viva Viagra" might be more to the point.) Yet for all the Republican self-flagellation, it's still not clear that the party even understands the particular dimensions of its latest defeat and its full implications for both Congressional races and John McCain in November.<<
2	WilliamK99 Sun 5/18/2008 10:28a	I wish I had a Bush problem right about now...
3	dshyates Sun 5/18/2008 10:51a	Saw the thread title, and was going to recommend a Wahl Trimmer. But I see your talking about GEORGE Bush. So yeah, a chains of Jacob Marley like problem. Good luck with that.
4	planodisney Sun 5/18/2008 3:30p	ecdc, why dont you just ask moderators if we can start a, Republicans=Satan, section and we can just lump all of your topics in there. It would be quite handy for us all!!!
5	dshyates Sun 5/18/2008 4:41p	Good Idea.
6	dshyates Sun 5/18/2008 4:47p	By the way, it seems as if those on the right are getting more hysterical as it looks more and more like they are going to take a thumping this November.
7	ecdc Sun 5/18/2008 11:40p	>>ecdc, why dont you just ask moderators if we can start a, Republicans=Satan, section and we can just lump all of your topics in there. It would be quite handy for us all!!!<< So...many...smart-ass...remarks.... Must. Resist. Plano, would you care to actually comment on what I posted? Of course, no where does anyone say that Republicans=Satan (though Satan is my favorite fictional character). Understandable as it is that you want to defend the Republican party, the things my post and the opinion piece raise are very real. Fact: Republicans have lost three traditionally safe congressional seats in special elections. Fact: Bush has had the longest low approval ratings of any President since polling began. As much as Republicans like to say "Well, uh, Truman had some bad numbers too!" the real story is how long Bush's numbers have been in the toilet. So you're more than welcome to respond to the substance of the post. Or you can keep building strawmen to knock down.
8	WilliamK99 Mon 5/19/2008 1:14a	By the way, it seems as if those on the right are getting more hysterical as it looks more and more like they are going to take a thumping this November.<< How are the Republicans getting hysterical? It's the democrats self destructing because of the fact that Hillary doesn't know when to give up.
9	wahooskipper Mon 5/19/2008 6:06a	I actually respect Bush for not making a spectacle of his daughter's wedding. He is the one in office, not her. That said, I do believe McCain's close ties to Bush hurt him but will it mean the difference in the election? I don't think so. I think the Democrats are in trouble and, really, they shouldn't be. This SHOULD be their year. There is no reason they should lose other than they couldn't find two more complicated candidates. I say if Edwards had got the nod he would have crushed McCain. But, Clinton and Obama are travelling with a LOT of baggage and they are picking more up as they ride this train.
10	dshyates Mon 5/19/2008 7:09a	I think that if Obama and Clinton were on the same ticket it would be a slaughter. That said I don't believe it will happen. I believe that Edwards stands a better chance of being on the ticket but he's one of those white guys with ties that didn't win appalachia last time. But about the only way Obama will win WV if Clinton is not on the ticket is to chose Jay Rockefeller.

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