DCA, Future Expansion
Topic: Barry Braverman Interview

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81	Spirit of 74 Mon 6/30/2008 7:07p	"What exactly is wrong with Pixar rides if they're high-quality?" <<May I chime in? Too often the Pixar stories are out of line with the theme (ie: Nemo/Monsters in Tomorrowland) In addition, with all the characters proliferating about the place, the experiences are becoming more and more similar. As Spokker said, it's more about synergy than creativity. In the end the customer is served an experience that is overtly commercial and far less compelling. Clever technology aside, all these new Pixar attractions are about the same thing: cartoons.>> I can't disagree with those sentiments. However, IF it's a choice of crappy attractions with character tie-ins (like SGE or MILF at MK) or high-quality attractions like the Cars and Mermaid additions to DCA, I'll take the latter and enjoy. Would I rather a moratorium on character attractions period (old Disney or Pixar) in favor of attractions along the line of Everest at DAK? Sure. But I try and approach things realistically. I do know there are non-character attractions in the pipeline (at least in Anaheim). Hopefully some of them will actually get built. I LOVED WALL*E but have no desire to see any attractions based on the film.
82	dshyates Mon 6/30/2008 7:41p	I hear they are going to seemlessly add Wall.E and Eve to the Jungle Cruise. You know, to make it more relevant to today's audience.
83	Park Hopper Mon 6/30/2008 9:44p	>>Sure. But I try and approach things realistically.<< Nobody ever achieved anything great by being realistic--or even reasonable. If that's your approach, you're signing up for a voyage aboard the good ship mediocrity. I hope you enjoy the trip.
84	ArchtMig Mon 6/30/2008 9:59p	>>>Nobody ever achieved anything great by being realistic--or even reasonable. If that's your approach, you're signing up for a voyage aboard the good ship mediocrity. I hope you enjoy the trip.<<< Well, the flip side is that your approach is polarizing and extreme. If that's the case, then enjoy the trips on the twin ships deadlocked and stalemated. And anyway, if you aren't part of the executive team at Disney, then enjoy the trip on the good ship wasting-time-debating-mindless-points-for-no-particular-practical-reason. I've enjoyed the ride on that last ship myself. It tends to list to one side or the other, though, and not just because the ship's name is so top heavy.
85	SpokkerJones Mon 6/30/2008 11:12p	Keep in mind that not liking Pixar based attractions doesn't mean you disliked the movies. There isn't a single Pixar movie I love with the exception of Cars, and even though I loved Finding Nemo, I would give the Nemo parts of the Finding Nemo Submarine Voyage a D+.
86	SpokkerJones Mon 6/30/2008 11:13p	Sorry, I left out a word. I meant to say there isn't a single Pixar movie I *don't* love.
87	Spirit of 74 Tue 7/1/2008 4:19p	<<Nobody ever achieved anything great by being realistic--or even reasonable. If that's your approach, you're signing up for a voyage aboard the good ship mediocrity. I hope you enjoy the trip.>> No. Actually, that's just some wonderful hyperbole on your part. If your approach is for the truly impossible and not reasonable or rational, the chances for greatness are slim and none because you'll likely accomplish nothing at all. People accomplish great things all the time. They often do so by being visionary and doing things that others haven't thought of before. Walt Disney was like that. There was nothing unrealistic or unreasonable about building the world's first theme park. It was a great idea with a willing audience. No one had simply done it before. He was smart enough to produce a product (actually products) that others had never thought of. I'm not sure exactly where you were headed with your post, but I don't like mediocrity. I think there's far too much of it. And that we've become far too tolerant of it in this country in the 21st century. That said, and getting back to the whole point of this thread, I am not happy about cartooning the Disney parks (where's Jonvn when you need him?) at all. They have absolutely made the MK into a kiddie park, the opposite of what it was created to be. That said, under current 'leadership' at TWDC, I'll take any kind of quality attractions.
88	Hans Reinhardt Tue 7/1/2008 9:16p	But aren't Pixar attractions, by their very nature, rather kiddie? Yes, TSMM is high quality, and people seem to like it, however for me it's just another (albeit well done) ride designed for the under 12 set and their parents.
89	SpokkerJones Wed 7/2/2008 12:10a	"That said, under current 'leadership' at TWDC, I'll take any kind of quality attractions." It's a take what you can get sort of thing. I mean, there's a vision of the perfect Disneyland that we all have in our minds. Then we have to come back down to Earth and work with what we've got. Like you said, I'm glad the cartoon movie rides are getting better, but I'd still prefer, you know, Journey to the Center of the Earth type attractions over Carsland type attractions.
90	Park Hopper Thu 7/3/2008 12:32p	>>There was nothing unrealistic or unreasonable about building the world's first theme park. It was a great idea with a willing audience. No one had simply done it before. He was smart enough to produce a product (actually products) that others had never thought of.<< Everybody under the sun, experts of all kinds, told Walt Disney that Disneyland would not work, that it would fail big time. He didn't listen and went straight ahead and built it anyway. Of course, I realize to pull anything of this nature off, you have to be the head of your own company. Otherwise you will be forced to compromise. And a lot of creative folks out there compromise daily because they are in love with their jobs and want to keep them. This is a very interesting dicotomy because to keep your job you pretty much have to distroy what attracted you to it in the first place. Disney's history is filled with reasonable, realistic, practical people. That's how you get attractions like Stich's Great Escape and Monsters Inc. laugh form. It's the realistic imagineers that bend to the will of marketing and create them. What is really needed are people who are more interestd in doing a good job and less interested in internal politics. But that's not going to happen. The good people get fired and replaced by toadies that will do what ever marketing tells them to. And while we're on the subject and the 4th of July is approaching. It might be appropriate to realize that prior to the American Revolution, no colony had ever successfully declaired independence from it's parent nation. It was not a realistic, reasonable or senseible goal. It wasn't easy, but our founding fathers made it happen. And wasn't it Walt Disney who once said how much he enjoyed doing the impossible. The Disney Company of today could do with a little more of that spirit.

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