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| DAR
Tue 6/3/2008 1:26p | http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/200...myNp24cA
If I'm Barrack I want to know what her angle is. Does she really want to be the VP because it will help the Democrats or..... |
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| Elderp
Tue 6/3/2008 1:32p | What angle is there to being VP. It is no surprise that Clinton doesn't want to go back to her junior position in the Senate. I think it would make a strong ticket for the Democratic ticket and it would go a long way to heal some of the bad lines that have been drawn in that party. Alliances are very much a part of what politics is about. Besides, talk about a historic first if they suceed. Not only the first black President but the first woman VP too. |
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| ecdc
Tue 6/3/2008 5:02p | The question is, will those who hate Hillary so irrationally tolerate her as VP? I know plenty of people who would vote Obama over McCain, but McCain over Clinton. Will an Obama/Clinton ticket tip them back to McCain? |
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| Kar2oonMan
Tue 6/3/2008 6:13p | >>The question is, will those who hate Hillary so irrationally tolerate her as VP?<<
That is a good question. I'm not convinced that Hillary will provide the help people seem to think she will on the ticket.
What she will do is offer yet another reason for those not all that thrilled with McCain who might sit the election out a reason to get out and vote on election day. Some Democrats truly, truly underestimate just how much she is disliked by the right.
After some hugs and a few rounds of kumbaya, just watch for the trucks filled with anti-Clinton fodder to back up to McCain headquarters. If you loved that stuff in the 90's, it'll be all back again. |
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| dshyates
Tue 6/3/2008 7:14p | I think that being the VP, the right,while still hating her, would be less mobilized than if she were the top of the ticket.
I think the 2 together on the ticket would be a powerhouse. They truly complement each other where they each have weaknesses. How can you say the ticket lacks experience with a former first lady who has the ear of a popular 2 term president. And can still offer an idea of change with Obama being the lead. She will bring the women and working class, he will bring the guys in ties. That leaves McSame with the fortune 500 and the religious right which can't stand him.
Gotta go. Obama is giving his speech. |
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| Inspector 57
Tue 6/3/2008 9:07p | <<The question is, will those who hate Hillary so irrationally tolerate her as VP?>>
I don't know that I would vote for Obama over McCain if Clinton were Obama's running mate. Yet I don't believe it's correct to say that I have an irrational hatred for her. I believe that my distrust/distain for her is rationally based on an assessment of her past behavior.
I'm certain that as VP she would bring strengths that would compliment Obama's. She would also bring baggage, blind ambition, and Bill. I think Obama can find someone who compliments his strengths without bringing those negatives. |
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| gadzuux
Tue 6/3/2008 10:12p | It's her current behavior that I'm worried about. I think she misplayed her hand tonight. She absolutely should have - if not outright conceded, at least acknowledge that he's won and she's lost.
Instead, she chose the worst possible option - she gave a speech that was a valentine to herself, and essentially implied that her campaign to be president continues.
This is an overt "in-yer-face" insult to the democratic nominee. She needed to gracefully exit the stage and give obama his (and our) historic moment. But she didn't do that - instead it's STILL all about her. She was combative and vague at the same time. Just like a woman - she wants to make sure you still respect her the next morning.
She's got no place on obama's ticket. He's representating a generational shift away from 'business as usual'. He also doesn't need former president bill lurking around in the background throughout an obama administration. However, the clintons' best interests ARE served by securing a foothold in the next incoming white house administration.
And what's more important than that?
Another reason for keeping her off the ticket is that the perception would be that she forced herself on obama with some backroom tit-for-tat exchange. He cannot be seen as being bullied by this woman before he even takes office.
Hillary can serve some vital role in an obama administration by overseeing the health care reforms. But unless she actually gets behind an obama candidacy, and PDQ, she's not qualified to be dog catcher. |
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| WorldDisney
Wed 6/4/2008 4:00a | ^^100% agreed Gadzuux.
I personnally would like to see Hillary be Vice President, but it would just be open season for the Republicans and like you said if Obama wants to surly go a new direction, tapping the old guard to be #2 probably isn't the way to go. It doesn't mean she can't be in his cabnient or something like that, but to be on the ticket will just give the republicans more ammo.
Eitherway, the next few days are going to be interesting to watch :). |
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| WorldDisney
Wed 6/4/2008 4:04a | And yes, it was almost an insult that she didn't even acknowledge not only did Obama win, but he made history in doing so. I think its odd that Obama went out of his way to complement Hillary and all she did was thank him for winning a single primary--like it's the third one or something. It's OVER!!!! Not only the primary season, but her campaign. She should've been a little more gracious and at least ACKNOWLEDGED that Obama is the nominee even if she didn't want to completely drop out.
This and others reasons is exactly why I switched my loyalty from her to Obama in the first place. |
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| davewasbaloo
Wed 6/4/2008 5:33a | >>This and others reasons is exactly why I switched my loyalty from her to Obama in the first place.<<
Me too. In the early stages, I was a Clinton fan, but Obama I think has proven himself, while Clinton has sunk into bad territory. I would too would love Obama/Clinton ticket, but given the right wing whack jobs out there, I think she would be better in the administration. |
