Tokyo Disneyland
Topic: Needing a reason

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11	X-san Tue 6/17/2008 7:57a	Thanks for adding to my paranoia. :p Yes, I kinda knew that. Freaky (and in particular, the fact that offshore Japan experienced an 8.0 a few years back really, REALLY freaks me out).
12	trekkeruss Tue 6/17/2008 8:02a	Personally, I'd rather live in an earthquake zone than a place where there are frequent storms, i.e. hurricanes, tornadoes, flooding, etc.
13	X-san Tue 6/17/2008 8:28a	All have their (extreme) downsides. Hurricanes at least you can prepare for, and get out of dodge if necessary. However, they seem to cut a more deadly swath and affect far more people. Tornadoes, much like quakes, come suddenly but there are ways you can prepare (usually you have "some" warning). The scariest thing about quakes, imo, is that they happen suddenly, with no warning. Freaky. Makes me long for non-scary, boring New England, where the only weather related deaths are those that get stuck in their cars in the snow when they should've stayed home. Now THAT'S not particularly scary to me (only cold and depressing lol).
14	SuperDry Tue 6/17/2008 8:38a	<<< HOWEVER, I also thought I read somewhere that the shinkansen tracks all broke, but recently a friend who hails from Kobe told me that's not true. >>> Well, he doesn't know what he's talking about. I took the Shinkansen from Hakata to Tokyo in March of 1995, about 2 months after the Kobe quake. As we went north from Hakata, at some point we had to switch from the Shinkansen to local trains. Getting even closer to Kobe, we had to switch from local trains to busses, walking several blocks through the city, right next to rubble and condemned buildings. It was very odd seeing 5-7 story buildings, one seemingly unscathed and the one right next to it cracked and kind of hunched over. Then they bussed us through the major area of damage, then back onto a local train, and then eventually back onto the Shinkansen to continue to Tokyo. It was surprisingly well organized and efficient - consider the through passenger count on the Shinkansen and how many busses per unit time would be required.
15	SuperDry Tue 6/17/2008 8:54a	<<< IMO, the only huge expense is airfare. >>> ... which is all the more reason to freeload your way to a ticket rather than purchase one!
16	barboy Tue 6/17/2008 8:57a	///I'd rather be in JAPAN for the big one than China or some other place (or even California for that matter)./// I agree if you are talking about Tokyo vs Beijing or San Fran. We talked about this before but here it goes again for those who may not have read it: Tokyo, for the most part, is an extremely 'new' megalopolis due to the vast destruction it saw from Allied bombings---most notably fire bombings back in the '40's. Beijing is very old and I can't even imagine how "unquakeworthy" those structures are in that huge town. Now, San Fran still has a lot of late 1800's architecture that survived the 1906 event. And even those that were rebuilt or newly built post 1906 I would not trust them if a biggie hit unless those structures are say under 60 years old. San Fran is one big Victorian age city(even though it came to life in 1776) that would crumble if a real shaker hit. Loma Prieta was a high sixer but if an 8 spot would have ripped through San Fran then that city would have seen wide spread decimation. Now, if an 8 spot would hit Shinjuku you better believe it would put the hurting on that town but I believe Tokyo as a whole would still stand and operate when the dust settles.
17	X-san Tue 6/17/2008 9:28a	That's an amazing story, SD. Must have been quite a sobering experience. I felt much the same way (I would guess) when I drove through my then hometown of Kissimmee after the tornadoes came through and saw, among other things, a car standing on end in the center of a blown out convenience store. Just something you never forget. (I've seen some pics of buildings in Kobe similar to what you describe, both fascinating and horrible at the same time!) I'll have to ask my friend about that again when I see him. It's entirely possible that there was a language barrier issue (about what he meant by "the tracks didn't break", maybe). He hails from Kobe as I said but was in Osaka at the time, and described the quake from so far away as "like a bomb", and that everyone woke up and walked out into the streets wondering what was going on.
18	X-san Tue 6/17/2008 9:30a	***Tokyo, for the most part, is an extremely 'new' megalopolis due to the vast destruction it saw from Allied bombings---most notably fire bombings back in the '40's.*** Not to mention the great Kanto quake of '23. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1...rthquake
19	barboy Tue 6/17/2008 10:20a	///if you knew of an area where 20 percent of the worlds worst Shark attacks happen would you not kind of want to avoid the area./// Florida is the leader in ***documented*** shark attacks. 1) Florida sees thousands upon thousands of beach/ocean goers every year with its warm 75+ degree waters and very expansive coastline and multiple famous beaches and outstanding dive spots. 2) Florida coastal water tends to be murky/cloudy. 3) Florida coastal water is home to easily overall the most dangerous shark in the world--- the bull aka 'Zambezi' which patrols even 3' shallow waters and is the 2nd most aggressive shark(the deep water and remote 'oceanic whitetip' is #1) 4) Since the 1900 there have been maybe just shy of 600 attacks in Florida and say 15 deaths. 15 deaths from fish attacks out of the countless people who entered Florida water is still a terribly minuscule number. And that is why every chance I get I dive and snorkel in the Keys because statistically I am safe(knock on wood!! :) )
20	barboy Tue 6/17/2008 10:25a	///Not to mention the great Kanto quake of '23./// you bet--- and it's good that you brought that up.

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