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Topic: 4/24/06 Pardon Our Dust: Disney's California Adv

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Doobie
Mon 4/24/2006 9:28p
This topic is for Discussion of: 4/24/06 Pardon Our Dust: Disney's California Adv
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irishfan
Mon 4/24/2006 9:28p
Thanks for the article, made a very interesting read, especially with regards to the possible new lagoon show.
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ArchtMig
Mon 4/24/2006 10:22p
I was looking for a byline on the article, but could not find one. Who usually writes the "Pardon our Dust" articles... LeeMac? That would be my guess since the author states his (her?) opinion that the funds going towards upgrading the entrance and sun court areas are essentially being mis-spent. I disagree with this completely.

Bring on placemaking. Make DCA a place - nay... an ENVIRONMENT - that I desire to spend time in just soaking up the atmosphere, regardless of whether I go on any attractions or not. Any money spent on "brick and mortar" improvements to the currently soul-less joint - as opposed to the sums literally WASTED on crap like Concerts by the Bay, and X-Games -- is a Good Thing.
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irishfan
Mon 4/24/2006 10:28p
The entrance really does leave me cold at DCA, so I too am glad to see this being rectified.
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AladdinAZ
Mon 4/24/2006 10:32p
Definitely interesting.

DCA Entry is definitely cold due to all the concrete. It would be interesting to see some pics of what they have in mind for this area. But without an icon for this park and the disasterous way it was initially layed out, it will really be near impossible to make it any more comfortable than the Flintstones living room.

I don't see how this park could EVER have as welcoming an area as Floral Mickey and the Train Station, and then transport you in time by walking thru a tunnel.

The other thing mentioned, the water show in the lagoon, has been mentioned since before the park officially opened. Unfortunately, this lagoon (which eats up a monsterous amount of space in DCA) does ABSOLUTELY NOTHING, and has NO ATTRACTIONS, and was not designed with viewing a show, in mind.
Luminarias faults did not lie entirely with the smoke problems. Sight lines around the monsterous currently useless lake are horrible, and viewing capacity is very low.
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Jim in Merced CA
Mon 4/24/2006 10:46p
The photo-mural pictures are really great looking. Well done. Good story LP.
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oc_dean
Mon 4/24/2006 11:39p
Article sounds like it could have been written by Disney's "Press Release" people.

>>WET Design is the design concern at the heart of aquatic architecture. WET were responsible for both the Bellagio Fountains in Las Vegas, NV and the Caldron at the 2002 Salt Lake City Winter Olympic Games. WET Design has proposed a new fountain show at DCA that will blow your mind<<

I knew it! I mentioned the lagoon is more than large enough for a water show to be similar to what the Bellagio Hotel in Vegas does! I WILL look most forward to this!!
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Westsider
Tue 4/25/2006 12:11a
The lagoon is huge, and the viewing area available is relatively small. And what viewing area that is there is flat and not designed to compliment the viewing of a large show.

It was okay for Luminaria, especially because the park wasn't drawing very big crowds back in late '01 a few months after 9/11. Get a decent sized crowd in the park all trying to crowd up to the waterfront for a view of the show, and the crowd control will make Light Magic look like a well-oiled machine in comparison.

DCA was simply not designed for a lagoon show in that body of water. I have it on good authority from friends in Entertainment Tech Services that there is absolutely no infrastructure built into the lagoon to support any show. The stuff they added for Luminaria was done on the cheap, and it was a good thing it only lasted 60 days as the equipment was all breaking down 5 weeks into the run. To put on a true lagoon show on the scale mentioned in the article will require the lagoon be drained and major infrastructure construction be done in and around the lagoon for months. It will be a major, major project if it ever happens.

People in Entertainment are still floored that no preparations or advance planning was made to put on a water show in that lagoon during the planning and construction process for DCA. It appears that if it wasn't planned to happen in the first 30 days of operation, that hardly any thought was given to adding anything to DCA in the short or long term future. Very short sighted "vision" as far as DCA's planning and construction was concerned.
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ChurroMonster
Tue 4/25/2006 1:24a
Look for the lagoon to be drained in January for the requisite equipment to be installed for the lagoon show. Summer '07 is when it will debut.
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Hans Reinhardt
Tue 4/25/2006 7:49a
"The lagoon is huge, and the viewing area available is relatively small. And what viewing area that is there is flat and not designed to compliment the viewing of a large show."

So was the Rivers of America prior to Fantasmic. From what I recall there have been several upgrades around the New Orleans Square river front over the years to make the show easier to view and control traffic. Neverthelss, the area and nearby Adventureland and Frontierland remain one of the Resort's biggest bottleneck nightmares. I can't imagine that similar upgrades couldn't be done around Paradise Lagoon.
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